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a chance, we'll bring you any market moving news as we get it. mitt romney campaigns in the philadelphia area today which a republican hasn't won in nearly 25 years. pennsylvania, that is. president obama sticks close to washington today, though, with three fund-raising events. both men were in virginia yesterday catering to the state's strong u.s. military and defense industry presence. mary jo is still with us. is mitt romney in pennsylvania because he thinks there's a chance? how important is winning pennsylvania to him? >> pennsylvania is one of several battleground states in this election and it comes town really to a handful of states including ohio and florida and of course pennsylvania and virginia. the undecided vote so far is very small, but let's keep in mind at this stage ronald reagan in 1980 was running about five points behind jimmy carter. by mid october, he was 13 points behind and yet he won the election by nine points. >> what do you think will be that catalyst for swinging things in mitt romney's favor? >> a strong debate by mitt romney. there are three of them coming
hopping back on the campaign trail. romney will also be speaking in new york. >> he's getting some criticism for his schedule in meetings. in any case, stick around because still to come, bowing out of investment banking. the future is looking bleak for rbs. >>> meredith whitney says banks have been behind the curve in terms of downsizing and employees are paying for it now. >> if you think about all the other industries that have gotten more competitive, more profitable, the banking sector and insurance sector have been laggards behind it and they employ a lot of people. so they'll see significant layoffs. interesting for goldman, they're cutting all of their highest paid people. so it's not a great time. i think the industry is as bad as i've seen it. >> so how bad is it going to get? joining us for more is bank equity research and european banking editor. welcome to you both. do you agree with meredith whitney, is it as bad as you've seen it and are there a lot more job cuts to come? >> yeah, i think it's pretty bad. i think it all kind of centers around what's going on with the
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